WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.004 The Hubble Space Telescope is one of the most scientifically 2 00:00:04.004 --> 00:00:07.507 productive spacecraft in NASA’s history and changed our 3 00:00:07.507 --> 00:00:11.011 fundamental understanding of the universe. 4 00:00:11.011 --> 00:00:14.014 Behind Hubble are some remarkable women who overcame 5 00:00:14.014 --> 00:00:16.016 challenges to help make Hubble one of the greatest scientific 6 00:00:16.016 --> 00:00:19.853 instruments of all time. 7 00:00:19.853 --> 00:00:27.694 [music] 8 00:00:27.694 --> 00:00:31.031 Mission Possible: Women of the Hubble Space Telescope 9 00:00:31.031 --> 00:00:34.368 [music swells] 10 00:00:34.368 --> 00:00:37.537 One Christmas, I remember my mom giving me a 11 00:00:37.537 --> 00:00:42.242 Barbie doll house—a dream house. They put it together the night 12 00:00:42.242 --> 00:00:46.480 before, I guess, and I was pretty upset that it was already 13 00:00:46.480 --> 00:00:48.482 put together because I wanted to do it. That was one of 14 00:00:48.482 --> 00:00:50.851 the things—that was one of the things very early on that they 15 00:00:50.851 --> 00:00:54.955 had a clue that maybe she wanted to do something with her hands 16 00:00:54.955 --> 00:01:00.093 and that later evolved to engineering. My father used to 17 00:01:00.093 --> 00:01:05.265 play games with me, mental arithmetic, I recognize now 18 00:01:05.265 --> 00:01:08.135 that it was algebra on his part, but of course, I didn't know 19 00:01:08.135 --> 00:01:10.270 they were algebra as an eight-year old. 20 00:01:10.270 --> 00:01:11.838 I never really thought 21 00:01:11.838 --> 00:01:15.776 about being a scientist when I was growing up because I didn't 22 00:01:15.776 --> 00:01:18.745 know any scientists, I didn't really know that that was a 23 00:01:18.745 --> 00:01:23.083 pathway I could pursue. I was not someone who had a distinct 24 00:01:23.083 --> 00:01:26.153 thought in mind of what I want to be or what I want to do when 25 00:01:26.153 --> 00:01:28.855 I grow up. I knew two things really were strong interests for 26 00:01:28.855 --> 00:01:32.826 me, I was inspired and curious and fascinated by the grand 27 00:01:32.826 --> 00:01:35.562 adventure I was seeing the early astronauts have on 28 00:01:35.562 --> 00:01:39.099 television. I watched everything from Alan Shepherd's 15 minute 29 00:01:39.099 --> 00:01:42.202 flight on forward. [Recording: It's progressing beautifully. I 30 00:01:42.202 --> 00:01:44.905 believe they are setting up the flag now.] And it was just a 31 00:01:44.905 --> 00:01:50.477 scale of drama and boldness and adventure that even the world 32 00:01:50.477 --> 00:01:55.148 had never seen and watching that at a young age was a great 33 00:01:55.148 --> 00:01:57.384 inspiration to me. But it mainly made me curious. About how do 34 00:01:57.384 --> 00:02:03.457 people get that kind of adventure in their life? I was 35 00:02:03.457 --> 00:02:07.127 born in Korea in the poor environment. My mother she 36 00:02:07.127 --> 00:02:11.031 raised two daughters as a single mom. She decided that we should 37 00:02:11.031 --> 00:02:14.368 immigrate to the United States. And then things were really 38 00:02:14.368 --> 00:02:19.406 tough because the language and the kids were mean back then; 39 00:02:19.406 --> 00:02:23.076 they were always making fun of us, my sister and I. And most of 40 00:02:23.076 --> 00:02:27.814 my friends were dropping out of high school and most kids just 41 00:02:27.814 --> 00:02:30.951 get a job after high school. That was my goal also. I worked 42 00:02:30.951 --> 00:02:35.122 in the sewing factory with my mom. I was making a penny for 43 00:02:35.122 --> 00:02:38.825 sewing one piece of clothes. I thought: wait a minute. This is 44 00:02:38.825 --> 00:02:42.996 not, this is not something I want to do. I can't do this. I 45 00:02:42.996 --> 00:02:47.234 need to better myself. Make a better living. I needed to 46 00:02:47.234 --> 00:02:54.041 expand my knowledge I guess in math. Study something on it. My 47 00:02:54.041 --> 00:03:01.915 counselor of course said: engineering is for you. I am 48 00:03:01.915 --> 00:03:06.920 from Baltimore, Maryland. Born and raised. I attended Baltimore 49 00:03:06.920 --> 00:03:11.491 public city schools and I also attended high school which was 50 00:03:11.491 --> 00:03:17.497 an engineering-based. It was not too open to women being at 51 00:03:17.497 --> 00:03:22.235 the school. The other challenges might have been financial. 52 00:03:22.235 --> 00:03:26.239 Having to work through college and having to work a semester to 53 00:03:26.239 --> 00:03:31.244 pay for the upcoming semester which of course delayed me 54 00:03:31.244 --> 00:03:34.381 graduating. And I don't know if I would have ended up at Goddard 55 00:03:34.381 --> 00:03:40.887 had I finished when I thought I should finish. Well, between 56 00:03:40.887 --> 00:03:44.825 fifth and sixth grade, I organized my friends into an 57 00:03:44.825 --> 00:03:49.396 astronomy club to study the constellations. And by seventh 58 00:03:49.396 --> 00:03:53.333 grade, I decided I wanted to be an astronomer and I was going to 59 00:03:53.333 --> 00:03:55.802 try for it. And I knew it was going to take me an additional 60 00:03:55.802 --> 00:04:00.006 twelves years of schooling but I figured I'd try. And if I didn't 61 00:04:00.006 --> 00:04:04.811 make it, I could probably teach physics or math in high school. 62 00:04:04.811 --> 00:04:09.983 I was told from the beginning that women cannot be scientists. 63 00:04:09.983 --> 00:04:13.820 In high school, one of the experiences I remember is that I 64 00:04:13.820 --> 00:04:19.159 asked my guidance counsellor for permission to take a second year 65 00:04:19.159 --> 00:04:23.296 of Algebra instead of a fifth year of Latin. And she looked 66 00:04:23.296 --> 00:04:27.100 down her nose at me and sneered: “What lady would take 67 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:32.506 mathematics instead of Latin?” I was not encouraged as a woman. 68 00:04:32.506 --> 00:04:37.077 My thesis professor was one I'd often didn't get the support 69 00:04:37.077 --> 00:04:40.480 that I expected. There was a period in which he went for six 70 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.650 months without speaking to me even when I said hello to him in 71 00:04:43.650 --> 00:04:47.654 the hall. He was angry because I'd left the University to go to 72 00:04:47.654 --> 00:04:54.161 the government. My role in Hubble was as Program Scientist. 73 00:04:54.161 --> 00:04:57.998 Being the first executive woman at NASA turned out not to be 74 00:04:57.998 --> 00:05:03.170 terribly eventful. I was accepted very readily as a 75 00:05:03.170 --> 00:05:08.742 scientist and in my job. The men were very cooperative. I never 76 00:05:08.742 --> 00:05:14.514 found that anybody looked at me from a gender standpoint. I was 77 00:05:14.514 --> 00:05:17.918 part of the group. Hey, Facebook! We're here live at the 78 00:05:17.918 --> 00:05:21.288 Goddard Space Flight Center. I'm Erin Kisliuk and we're talking 79 00:05:21.288 --> 00:05:23.890 about Hubble's brand new frontier. It was the summer 80 00:05:23.890 --> 00:05:27.727 before my senior year. My internship was, um, with Human 81 00:05:27.727 --> 00:05:30.964 Exploration and Operations in their Education and Outreach 82 00:05:30.964 --> 00:05:36.002 Group and it was the opporutnity of a life time. The course of my 83 00:05:36.002 --> 00:05:39.906 career took me to Houston to work for NASA, it took me back 84 00:05:39.906 --> 00:05:44.277 to the DC area to work for NASA again and I found myself at age 85 00:05:44.277 --> 00:05:49.683 25 for reasons completely beyond my control having lost three 86 00:05:49.683 --> 00:05:54.387 different jobs and I thought that was it for me to be honest. 87 00:05:54.387 --> 00:05:58.858 Um, but, I gave it one last shot and I'm here. In the place I 88 00:05:58.858 --> 00:06:03.396 exactly wanted to be. And I was nearing the end of graduate 89 00:06:03.396 --> 00:06:06.933 school when NASA opened the competition for space shuttle 90 00:06:06.933 --> 00:06:10.270 astronauts. I never thought of my life that way: I want to be 91 00:06:10.270 --> 00:06:14.074 an astronaut. So when the Hubble deployment crew was being chosen 92 00:06:14.074 --> 00:06:17.711 one of the key factors in the NASA leadership mind was someone 93 00:06:17.711 --> 00:06:20.880 with experience in every one of the crew positions. These guys 94 00:06:20.880 --> 00:06:24.584 are looking for expedition managers. They want someone that 95 00:06:24.584 --> 00:06:29.089 is a hybrid of the ship's company as we would call it and 96 00:06:29.089 --> 00:06:31.758 are attached to the shuttle and we were going to host and 97 00:06:31.758 --> 00:06:34.761 operate scientific experiments. So it's a different model than 98 00:06:34.761 --> 00:06:40.500 an oceanographic research ship, but familiar. I think there were 99 00:06:40.500 --> 00:06:46.039 times when I felt really intimidated. I had come from a 100 00:06:46.039 --> 00:06:50.143 small town in rural Arkansas when I entered the University 101 00:06:50.143 --> 00:06:54.514 environment, I felt intimidated a lot of times in my classes. 102 00:06:54.514 --> 00:06:59.252 But I learned how to seek out help. I learned how to find 103 00:06:59.252 --> 00:07:04.524 mentors, find tutors, ask questions and not be embarrassed 104 00:07:04.524 --> 00:07:05.892 to do that. 105 00:07:05.892 --> 00:07:09.095 The advice I have for young people, especially 106 00:07:09.095 --> 00:07:14.100 those underprivileged is don't let anything stop you. If I 107 00:07:16.469 --> 00:07:21.041 hadn't had some of the stumbling blocks I had to get to where I 108 00:07:21.041 --> 00:07:26.112 am now, a, I wouldn't appreciate it as much as I do right now, 109 00:07:26.112 --> 00:07:29.149 and b, I don't know if I would have been in the right place at 110 00:07:29.149 --> 00:07:32.786 the right time to end up where I am now. So, if there's 111 00:07:32.786 --> 00:07:35.789 something, this light at the end of the tunnel that's keeping you 112 00:07:35.789 --> 00:07:38.892 going, keep your eye on the prize. You don't want to spend 113 00:07:38.892 --> 00:07:44.064 your life doing something you don't like. Stay curious. Learn 114 00:07:44.064 --> 00:07:47.567 how to learn. Understand you're going to have to match your 115 00:07:47.567 --> 00:07:51.471 passions and your dreams with really hard work. A lot of 116 00:07:51.471 --> 00:07:55.008 people have already paved the way. There's still a lot of 117 00:07:55.008 --> 00:07:59.946 things that have to change, but I think a lot of doors are open. 118 00:07:59.946 --> 00:08:06.019 And, opportunities are vast. I'm here and there are a lot of 119 00:08:06.019 --> 00:08:12.959 others like me here. If I can do it, they can do it also. 120 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:19.799 www.nasa.gov/hubble @NASAHubble 121 00:08:19.799 --> 00:08:22.902 [satellite swooshes by, beep beep, beep beep] 122 00:08:22.902 --> 00:08:31.177 NASA Goddard Space Flight Center www.nasa.gov/goddard 123 00:08:31.177 --> 00:00:00.000 [music fades]